... ask what you could do in the Arena.
If you're JFK, the answer to that is to just keep winning.
It was neck-and-neck all week, with Bush leading for the majority of the time. But when the buzzer went off, it was JFK in front. It would have been to Bush's advantage to push it a bit further. A tie would have given him the automatic win, as the commentariat was 2-to-1 for Bush for a variety of reasons.
This isn't the first time Bugs Bunny was used as a model for a Bush in the Arena. However, both instances led to a Bush loss. And no, of course it's not too soon to start cracking jokes about JFK's interns.
JFK moves on to the quarterfinals, where he will face Theodore Roosevelt March 12.
And with that, we're done with the Round of 16. With the quarterfinals kicking off next week, only eight combatants remain. Shit is, indeed, about to get real (assuming it hasn't already, which some could argue it has). Next week, our first quarterfinal match will be Andrew Jackson against Thomas J. Whitmore of Independence Day.

What if every president in America's rich history squared off in a no-holds-barred tournament of death? What if, in the interests of expanding the field to an easy-to-handle 64, the presidents were joined by a select group of fictional presidents, all vying for the title of Supreme Commander in Chief? This blog attempts to answer those questions with humor, irreverence, and hopefully without major bloodshed between the two authors.
Showing posts with label George H.W. Bush. Show all posts
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Friday, February 17, 2012
Monday, February 13, 2012
Bush vs. Kennedy
We here at Hail to the Chief... to the Death intend that this blog be for entertainment
and wise-ass only purposes. We do not condone, nor do we encourage, violence
against any president: former or current, living or dead, real or fictional.
George H.W. Bush
41st President of the United States
Years Served: 1989-1993Ages during term: 64-68
Arena Experience: Bush has been in the Arena twice and both times, he had beaten a Harrison with two-thirds of the vote. In the 1st Round, he beat Benjamin Harrison. In the 2nd Round, he met up with Benji's grandfather, William Henry Harrison.
PROS: Enlisted into the Navy shortly after the attack on Pearl Harbor and soon became the youngest naval airman in the history of the force. He was no schlub, either. He earned a few honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross. Later, he became the Director of the CIA. I may not have a proper grasp of the CIA, but I'd imagine being in the CIA means he knows how to kill s guy quickly and quietly.
CONS: Despite his military service, Bush had a hard time shaking a preppy image that came from graduating from the Phillips Academy and Yale University. As president, he also had a hard time identifying some dangers. He underestimated the problem with the economy and it eventually cost him the Election of 1992.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
35th President of the United States
Served: 1961-1963
Ages during term: 44-46
Arena experience: JFK's road to the round of 16 was paved with the blood of fictional presidents. By which we mean, he took down Dave Kovic from Dave with 73.3% of the vote, and then squeaked by Dwayne (interminable series of middle initials) Camacho with 56%.
PROS: Kennedy was a WWII hero who pulled off a series of daring exploits in order to save the lives of his crew (and himself) after his boat was demolished in the South Pacific. He also won a Pulitzer for his post-war academic work, and showed himself to be fairly cool under pressure during the Cuban Missile Crisis, which thanks to said coolness, did not result in the world being reduced to a radioactive cinder.
CONS: Kennedy's body was in horrible shape by the time he made it to the Presidency, and had in fact been in poor shape for a while (the only reason he was in the Navy was because the Army took one look and said "thanks, but no thanks."). Also, Kennedy got a lot of mileage in life out of the connections he inherited from being rich as balls, so there's that.
Pre-Fight Analysis
Doug: I'm putting all of my money on the WWII-vet born from a rich New England family.
No, really folks. I want the voters to take a step back and not get drawn into the glitz and glamour of JFK. Yes, Camelot is way more interesting than Kennebunkport. Jackie Kennedy was graceful, elegant, and beautiful while Barbara Bush, ehh, less so. JFK had oodles of affairs, some still surfacing fifty years later. Bush... well, we'd rather not think about that.
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| Regardless, we're still going to put images in your head. |
This isn't a contest to see who banged hotter babes. The blog isn't called Tail to the Chief... to the Death. The truth is that, even though Bush is two decades older, he's in way better shape the JFK.
Plus which, according to some of the conspiracy theories, the CIA assassinated JFK. So doesn't that kind of mean that Bush had already won this one?
Tony: JFK comes into this matchup in an interesting state. His body is like someone crossed the Millenium Falcon with the starship Enterprise*; looks great on the outside, but everything inside is being held together by various ramshackle methods of dubious quality. And yes, I just mixed franchises on everyone. Deal.
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| The Enterprise would win, by the by. |
On the other hand, JFK dispatched a rather strong opponent in the last round, meaning that he's going to have a chance in every matchup he's thrown into. While it's impressive that Bush made it to this round of the tournament, he doesn't really have a signature win to his credit. He's defeated a couple of Harrisons, and that's it. Eh, I dunno. I could say I'm impressed, but it would be that condescending sort of impressed you get when old people do normal things. Not that surviving in the Arena is normal, per se... but I digress.
I think this one's close, but JFK comes out on top.
*-for this analogy, I will only accept the TOS and TNG versions of the Enterprise; don't even try to bring that prequel bullshit in here
Bush vs. Kennedy
Friday, December 16, 2011
Ex-CIA Director Neutralizes Tippecanoe
George H.W. Bush's CIA know-how proved to be no match for the fatally ill William Henry Harrison.
Bush's fists did the talking in this matchup of familial vengeance.
Once again, Bush has gone up against a Harrison, and once again, he ended up with exactly two-thirds of the vote. We hope the CIA isn't monitoring this blog and rigging the votes so that their former director wins by a big margin.
At this point, we're expected to explain how someone able to easily defeat the younger and athletic Bush would get tripped up by the older one. And wouldn't you know, we thought of something. It could be argued that Harrison's first bout took place in the small window of time when he was president but not yet dying. However, after winning his first fight and waiting around for the second fight, Harrison must have caught pneumonia. Right? We don't know. Try not to think too hard about the specifics.
Looking past whatever happened in the First Round, a George H.W. Bush - William Henry Harrison matchup seems pretty straight forward.
Say what you will about Bush, he went up against a very ill 68-year-old. Only major mess up on Bush's part would have ended his Arena run.
Bush moves on to the Round of 16, which is scheduled for Feb. 13.
Join us next week when John F. Kennedy takes on Idiocracy's Dwayne E.M.D.H. Camacho.
Bush's fists did the talking in this matchup of familial vengeance.
Bush vs. Harrison
| George H.W. Bush | 16 (66.7%) |
| William Henry Harrison | 8 (33.3%) |
Once again, Bush has gone up against a Harrison, and once again, he ended up with exactly two-thirds of the vote. We hope the CIA isn't monitoring this blog and rigging the votes so that their former director wins by a big margin.
At this point, we're expected to explain how someone able to easily defeat the younger and athletic Bush would get tripped up by the older one. And wouldn't you know, we thought of something. It could be argued that Harrison's first bout took place in the small window of time when he was president but not yet dying. However, after winning his first fight and waiting around for the second fight, Harrison must have caught pneumonia. Right? We don't know. Try not to think too hard about the specifics.
Looking past whatever happened in the First Round, a George H.W. Bush - William Henry Harrison matchup seems pretty straight forward.
Say what you will about Bush, he went up against a very ill 68-year-old. Only major mess up on Bush's part would have ended his Arena run.
Bush moves on to the Round of 16, which is scheduled for Feb. 13.
Join us next week when John F. Kennedy takes on Idiocracy's Dwayne E.M.D.H. Camacho.
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Monday, December 12, 2011
Bush vs. Harrison
First, let's get our fine print on:
We here at Hail to the Chief... to the Death intend that this blog be for entertainment
and wise-ass only purposes. We do not condone, nor do we encourage, violence
against any president: former or current, living or dead, real or fictional.
Moving on.
Years Served: 1989-1993
Ages during term: 64-68
Arena experience: Ol' H.W. doubled up on Benjamin Harrison in the first round.
PROS: Bush was an incredibly accomplished prep school kid who dropped everything to enlist in World War II. He spent the war in the Pacific bombing the shit out of freedom's enemies, then survived his bomber being hit-- and by "survived," we mean he had to bail out of his plane. This instilled a love of bailing-out-of-planes that the now ex-president indulges in to this day. He entered into politics with a wealth of connections, which means he knew folks who could get things done, dammit.
CONS: Bush spent his time in national office dodging question after question about how tough he was. He also proved adept at ignoring calamities that were unfolding right under his nose, which would prove unfortunate when the economy tanked under said nose, and Bush did nothing, leading to his defeat in 1992.
George Herbert Walker Bush
41st President of the United StatesYears Served: 1989-1993
Ages during term: 64-68
Arena experience: Ol' H.W. doubled up on Benjamin Harrison in the first round.
PROS: Bush was an incredibly accomplished prep school kid who dropped everything to enlist in World War II. He spent the war in the Pacific bombing the shit out of freedom's enemies, then survived his bomber being hit-- and by "survived," we mean he had to bail out of his plane. This instilled a love of bailing-out-of-planes that the now ex-president indulges in to this day. He entered into politics with a wealth of connections, which means he knew folks who could get things done, dammit.
CONS: Bush spent his time in national office dodging question after question about how tough he was. He also proved adept at ignoring calamities that were unfolding right under his nose, which would prove unfortunate when the economy tanked under said nose, and Bush did nothing, leading to his defeat in 1992.
William Henry Harrison
9th President of the United States
Served March 4, 1841 - April 4, 1841
Age during term: 68
Arena Experience: Harrison defeated George W. Bush with 60.9% of the vote, though we suspect that the voters allowed their politics to play too big of a role in deciding that one.
PROS: Harrison was in the U.S. Army and served as a major general in the Indiana Territory militia. While in the militia, he kept Tecumseh and company at bay during the War of 1812 and went on an all-out land grab to claim Indiana for the U.S. The guy doesn't back down.
CONS: The guy doesn't back down. Even when it comes to things like putting on a coat when he's about to give a long inaugural speech during a winter storm. Even when it comes to taking it easy when he has pneumonia. Things like that lead to sort presidential terms, and even shorter fights.
The Fight
Tony: Okay, time for straight talk. You and I both know that William Henry Harrison, he of the one month presidency, had no business surviving his first round fight. He was just lucky to go up against someone with a lower approval rating than cancer. Well, now he's going up against George Herbert Walker Bush, and he's going to get his face caved in. Let's look at the facts:

Served March 4, 1841 - April 4, 1841
Age during term: 68
Arena Experience: Harrison defeated George W. Bush with 60.9% of the vote, though we suspect that the voters allowed their politics to play too big of a role in deciding that one.
PROS: Harrison was in the U.S. Army and served as a major general in the Indiana Territory militia. While in the militia, he kept Tecumseh and company at bay during the War of 1812 and went on an all-out land grab to claim Indiana for the U.S. The guy doesn't back down.
CONS: The guy doesn't back down. Even when it comes to things like putting on a coat when he's about to give a long inaugural speech during a winter storm. Even when it comes to taking it easy when he has pneumonia. Things like that lead to sort presidential terms, and even shorter fights.
The Fight
Tony: Okay, time for straight talk. You and I both know that William Henry Harrison, he of the one month presidency, had no business surviving his first round fight. He was just lucky to go up against someone with a lower approval rating than cancer. Well, now he's going up against George Herbert Walker Bush, and he's going to get his face caved in. Let's look at the facts:
- H.W. is hardcore
- The Bush family have a habit of sticking up for one another; witness Dubya wanting to kick Garry Trudeau's ass for saying mean things about his dad.
- Harrison dispatched Dubya in the Arena.
Thus, we can conclude that H.W. is going to want to exact revenge on Harrison, and Harrison? Well, he's going to be in absolutely no position to defend himself.
Doug: You realize this is a two-way road, right? You say H.W. is going to exact revenge on W.H.H. for knocking his son out in the 1st Round. And how do you think Harrison's going to treat the guy who beat his grandson? "Oh, that's quite all right, good chap. All in the good name of friendly fisticuffs, then. Tally-ho, and may the best man live to see the 'morrow!"
No, of course not. And I don't know why I made Harrison sound like a fancy British gentleman, because he wasn't one. In fact, he spent his military career in the Indiana wilderness, removing the people who had been there for generations, which proved quite the challenge.
Point being, Harrison is no slouch himself. And he too has the taste for revenge.
No, of course not. And I don't know why I made Harrison sound like a fancy British gentleman, because he wasn't one. In fact, he spent his military career in the Indiana wilderness, removing the people who had been there for generations, which proved quite the challenge.
Point being, Harrison is no slouch himself. And he too has the taste for revenge.
Tony: He may be no slouch, but will he be conscious? Let's face it, Harrison enters this match at a serious disadvantage. There is no point during his administration that he was not dying. And now he's supposed to survive the Arena? Not seeing it.
Then there's Bush. Think Bush is a wimp? Ask Noreiga how that turned out. Or, ask all the people with whom Bush has voluntarily jumped out of planes. They'll tell you-- Bush is one bad mother.
Doug: Shut your mouth!
Tony: I'm just talking about Bush!
Doug: Then I can dig it.
But seriously, on paper, this may not be the best of circumstances for Harrison. In reality (actually, that should read "in 'reality'") though, he has already beaten a pretty fit and athletic president in the Arena. Clearly, the voters see something in Tippecanoe that you may be overlooking.
You want me to ask Noriega (the School of the Americas graduate and the guy who worked with the CIA, even when G.H.W. Bush was heading it) about Bush's wimpitude, or should we ask Shawnee chief Tecumseh about William Henry Harrison's? Because there's no common link between Harrison and Tecumseh before they met on the battlefield, unlike Bush and Noriega. It's not like Tecumseh learned his military techniques through Americans only to be deposed by an American president, which seems to be the case with Noriega.
Maybe "wimp" isn't the word with this dealing with Noriega. Maybe "shady" is a better word.
Tony: I'm just talking about Bush!
Doug: Then I can dig it.
But seriously, on paper, this may not be the best of circumstances for Harrison. In reality (actually, that should read "in 'reality'") though, he has already beaten a pretty fit and athletic president in the Arena. Clearly, the voters see something in Tippecanoe that you may be overlooking.
You want me to ask Noriega (the School of the Americas graduate and the guy who worked with the CIA, even when G.H.W. Bush was heading it) about Bush's wimpitude, or should we ask Shawnee chief Tecumseh about William Henry Harrison's? Because there's no common link between Harrison and Tecumseh before they met on the battlefield, unlike Bush and Noriega. It's not like Tecumseh learned his military techniques through Americans only to be deposed by an American president, which seems to be the case with Noriega.
Maybe "wimp" isn't the word with this dealing with Noriega. Maybe "shady" is a better word.
Tony: Again, I think the context of Harrison's previous victory is extremely important here, because if there's one thing our voters have shown, it's that popularity often matters more than actual fighting prowess. Harrison went up against George W. Bush; thus I think it's safe to say his victory has very little to do with him. Either way, he's about the run up against the juggernaut that is George H.W. Bush. Say buh-bye, William!
Doug: I'm totally against the voters ignoring who would actually win in a fight and just going with the guy they like. It kind of defeats the purpose of this blog, but that's what they're doing and there's no way for us to stop it. Are these same voters who disliked W going to be totally cool with the guy who gave us W? It totally sucks, yeah.
They would be ignoring the fact W.H.H. is going to hit H.W. like a log cabin.
They would be ignoring the fact W.H.H. is going to hit H.W. like a log cabin.

The Chief: Now it's up to the readers to decide which of these two cats will end up not copping out even when the danger of the Arena is all about. Vote and comment! Voting closes Friday at 9am Mountain time.
Bush vs. Harrison
Friday, August 12, 2011
Read His Lips...
George H.W. Bush shined like the thousand points of light in his First Round fight.
He went all Operation: Desert Storm on Benjamin Harrison.
Before we continue, there is some unfinished business that we forgot to include in Monday's post:
It was pretty even for most of the week. Harrison even had a lead for some time, but Bush pulled picked up some late supporters and his lead only grew from there. Though the vote count was close for a bit, the commentariat showed absolutely no love for Harrison.
Because really, what could stop his fists?
George H.W. Bush will return to the Arena for his 2nd Round fight scheduled for Dec. 12. Next week: Bush vs. Harrison. No, it's not a rematch. George W. Bush will face William Henry Harrison. Will the second round feature a Battle of the Bushes? We'll find out!
He went all Operation: Desert Storm on Benjamin Harrison.
| George H.W. Bush | 10 (66.7%) |
| Benjamin Harrison | 5 (33.3%) |
Before we continue, there is some unfinished business that we forgot to include in Monday's post:
We here at "Hail to the Chief... to the Death" intend that this blog be for entertainment and wise-ass only purposes. We do not condone, nor do we encourage, violence against any president, former or current, living or dead, real or fictional.That should be clear at this point, but we feel it's necessary to include it in posts involving still-living presidents.
It was pretty even for most of the week. Harrison even had a lead for some time, but Bush pulled picked up some late supporters and his lead only grew from there. Though the vote count was close for a bit, the commentariat showed absolutely no love for Harrison.
Because really, what could stop his fists?
George H.W. Bush will return to the Arena for his 2nd Round fight scheduled for Dec. 12. Next week: Bush vs. Harrison. No, it's not a rematch. George W. Bush will face William Henry Harrison. Will the second round feature a Battle of the Bushes? We'll find out!
Monday, August 8, 2011
Bush vs. Harrison
George Herbert Walker Bush
41st President of the United StatesYears Served: 1989-1993
Ages during term: 64-68
PROS: Verifiable badass — As 1941 came to a close, young George was certainly getting it done, nearing completion of his studies at the ever-so-slightly prestigious Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts, holding down a number of leadership positions at the school, including the presidency of his class, and captaincy of the varsity baseball and soccer teams. Then, Pearl Harbor happened.
Like many boys his age, George wanted to get to the war as quickly as possible, and enlisted in the Navy as soon as he had graduated. Unfortunately for his bloodlust, he promptly was sent to naval aviator school, which was a 10-month course. So, it was June of 1943 before the young ensign was finally unleashed upon the war effort. Still, upon graduation from the course, Bush was just shy of his 19th birthday, meaning that he was officially the youngest naval airman in the force. Also, in the history of the force.
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| And he had Paul Newman's eyes, which... helloooooo, sailor! |
Now, you're thinking, "this sort of thing probably happened all the time. They probably trained for it extensively." You're definitely right on the first count, and I would suspect you're right on the second. But that doesn't mean that ditching one's plane was the kind of thing they did lightly. Why? Well, Bush's crewman's parachute didn't open. That left the future president, alone in the Pacific, in an inflated raft, for hours and hours until rescue showed up.
Now, you'd think that this sort of affair would dampen one's enthusiasm for things like "jumping the hell out of airplanes." But, you'd be wrong! This brief taste of misadventure only whetted George Bush's appetite. However, once the war ended, opportunities for continued plane-jumping were scarce on the ground, and once Bush got into politics, there were few people around who would even consider the idea of letting him jump out of a plane, especially when he ascended to the Vice Presidency, and ultimately the Presidency of the United States. So... he waited.
Until he was 75. And 80. And 85.
Yes, George H.W. Bush, at an age when most people would be content to get in 9 holes at the local range, was willingly hurtling himself out of airplanes, towards the ground, at high rates of speed. Like a boss.
After slumming in Texas Republican politics for a bit, Bush first ran for Senate, lost, and then managed to secure a seat in Congress (where he became the first Republican to represent a Houston-based district; try and wrap your head around that). He served two terms, then President Nixon convinced him to run for the Senate again, and again Bush lost. However, Nixon knew a good thing when he saw it, and appointed Bush as Ambassador to the United Nations. Following that stint, Nixon recommended that Bush serve as the head of the Republican National Committee, which would have been fine, except then Watergate broke out. Bush found himself in the rather tricky position of trying to isolate the damage his friend and mentor had done to the party, all without openly breaking away from Nixon. Eventually, Bush had to join in the chorus asking for Nixon to resign.
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| Okay, it was probably less congenial than this. |
Returning home, Bush slid into the position of Director of Central Intelligence, because... why the hell not? This position lasted until Carter took office, whereupon he cleaned house and cast Bush out along with the rest of the Ford-Nixon-era cronies. A few years in academia followed, before Bush got the itch to run for the top job in the land. He lost the Republican nomination to Ronald Reagan, but Reagan cannily asked Bush to be his running mate, and from there? Well, from there, he became Vice President, and then President.
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| George H.W. Bush: proof that there is no cure for extreme lank. |
CONS: Okay, about his toughness — We applauded Bush earlier for being someone who had the stones to, you know, go skydiving, even in his advanced age. And we certainly don't want to take any of that away from him. However, that came after he was president. Just like his military service (obviously) came before he was president. So, what of his actual time in office? You know, the time during which he would be spirited away to the Presidential Gladiatorial Arena™? Turns out, it's less-flattering.
The trouble started during Bush's Vice Presidency. George had a tough time shaking the preppy image that came with graduating from both Phillips and Yale, and scandals like the Iran Contra Affair, which he claimed to have been an innocent bystander of, didn't help his image. Indeed, the comic strip Doonesbury ran a series of strips in which Bush, seeking to help the Reagan administration, places his manhood in a blind trust.
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| Fighting the "wimp factor": this is not how you do it. |
Yeah, Congress made him raise taxes. It didn't go over well. Which leads, somewhat, to another con:
Inability to see what was happening under his own nose — In 1991, the American economy hit a bit of a pothole. Inflation, unemployment, and interest rates all went up sharply. Bush make some token attempts to spark the economy back to life, and then pretty much gave up. Why? Well, his advisers figured he had re-election pretty much wrapped up. Why? Lingering approval highs from the Gulf War, of course! Yes, Bush's approval ratings had spiked during the brief conflict, reaching into the 90% range.
Now, we're going to play a little game with you. Remember when Osama bin Laden was killed? You should; it was only a few months ago. Do you remember how President Obama's approval ratings got a nice bump afterwards? Okay. Now, do you remember everyone saying he was a shoo-in for re-election next year? No. Because that would be a moronic thing to say, especially in the face of a sputtering economy.
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| Derp! |
Benjamin Harrison
23rd President of the United StatesYears served: 1889-1893
Ages during term: 55-59
PROS: Wins, even when he’s not supposed to — Harrison is a bit of an unsung hero. Any U.S. presidential trivia n00b can tell you that Grover Cleveland served two nonconsecutive terms. The fact is, if Harrison hadn’t beaten Cleveland in the election of 1888, Cleveland’s name would have gotten lost in the sea of forgettable 19th century presidents along with what's his name and that other guy. Cleveland and presidential trivia novices should be thanking Harrison. Harrison’s also the reason why we have secret ballots.
Harrison shouldn’t have won in 1888. Harrison lost the popular vote by 90,000 votes. In addition to that, there were charges of voter fraud in New York and Harrison’s home state of Indiana — which added up to 51 of the total electoral votes. In Indiana, the Republican Party’s plan to buy votes was exposed. Harrison was elected anyway. As a result of this scandal, the system of secret ballots was established.
So, you can thank Harrison and his willingness to cheat for today’s secret ballots.
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| None of these jerks are even thankful for Harrison's contribution to modern American democracy. |
But more importantly in terms of this blog, Harrison will do what he has to to win.
Rich history of laying the hammer down — When the Civil War broke out, Harrison was reluctant to serve in the Army because he was worried his family would need his financial support. Instead, he recruited a regiment. He declined an offer to command the regiment because of his lack of experience. He joined anyway with the rank of second lieutenant. He quickly climbed the ranks and ended up being brigadier general, though at that point, the war was essentially over.
During the war, his regiment joined General Sherman’s. Harrison was on the front lines for the Atlanta campaign and the Union’s wave of destruction known as the March to the Sea. Following that, Harrison was sent to the Battle of Nashville to kick more butt over there.
When he was president, he laid the foreign policy hammer down, as well. In the early 19th century, James Monroe told Europe to butt out of the Americas. That policy had kind of eroded when the U.S. had to deal with the Civil War. Harrison re-established the United States’ place in the Western Hemisphere. For starters, he worked out a tariff reciprocity deal with Latin American nations. It’s not a very exciting story, but it’s important in its own right. Also, he told Canadian fisherman and sealers to GTFO of Alaska’s Aleutian Islands by seizing their ships.
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| Not because baby seals are cute, but because that should have been US clubbing them. |
Also, during his term, six states were added to the Union: North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Washington, Idaho and Washington. At that point, the last state that had joined the Union was Colorado in 1876. Suddenly, six new ones were lining up to join the club. Either they thought Harrison was that cool, or they were just scared of him.
CONS: Squandered a whole lot — Cleveland left office with a huge budget surplus. What to do with this surplus? The Democrats and Populists wanted to lower tariffs, but Harrison and the Republicans in Congress had another idea — spending spree. The Civil War veterans’ pension plan was expanded to give the veterans a more generous payout. It was also expanded to include noncombatants and children of veterans. They also spent it on hookers and booze. Not really, but it certainly seems so, because spending went a little out of control.
By the time Harrison was up for re-election, the surplus had vanished and the U.S. was well on its way towards the Panic of 1893.
So, Harrison seems to be good a losing any advantage he gains.
Loses, when he can’t cheat — Let’s get back to those six states that joined the Union. A major reason why it had been so long since new states were admitted into the Union was because the Democrats weren’t particularly thrilled with letting six mostly Republican states in. With Harrison in the White House and the Republicans controlling both houses of Congress, there was no one stopping them. Clearly, these six states would go vote for Harrison in '92 giving him an easy re-election, right?
No. Well, of the 20 new electoral votes, he got 15 of them. And that’s good. The problem was that a candidate from the Populist Party — who advocated such ridiculous things as eight-hour work days — took Republican votes in the West. And since people were looking out for another vote-buying scandal, Harrison didn’t really have a leg to stand on.
The Fight
Tony: So, the deal with Harrison is that he's a big ol' cheat, eh? Looks like this should be an interesting matchup. But here's the thing-- Harrison may not play fair, but he's going up against a guy who was a) in charge of the CIA, and b) a Skull and Bones at Yale. He's going to know as many dirty tricks as Harrison, which eliminates Harrison's big advantage. Meanwhile, Bush's big advantage is that the man knows no fear. He's just going to open up a can o' whoopass. A BIG OL' CAN.
Doug: Harrison's a spoiler though. Just ask Grover Cleveland, who was supposed to win in 1888. Yeah, I guess Bush sounds okay on paper. And I suppose it's reasonable to think that Mr. CIA could foresee Harrison's tricks, but I don't know. In the end Harrison's a slippery dude. Just like how he changed the way people vote in national elections, he may be a game-changer here.
Though, I personally hope not. Despite the few hiccups we've had with our little polling gadget thingie, I don't want to have to go hunt down another one.
Tony: Psssh. Harrison's no spoiler. "Rosebud's the sled" is a spoiler. Um, spoilers for those of who you haven't seen Citizen Kane. But really, this is another trick that Bush has seen before. After all, he was "supposed" to win in 1992. He was such a sure thing, most of the prime Democratic candidates didn't even run! Bush isn't going to be overconfident this time, even though he totally could be, as, you know, he's got this thing.
I'd be more worried about the polling gadget if we, you know, had voters willing to use it. Hey-o! *drinks*
Doug: Logistical question — If all of the combatants are fighting while they were president, the Bush has no idea that things are going to go shitty for him in '92. So he has no idea NOT to be overconfident.
You know who won't be overconfident? Harrison. He's going to fight hard, just like he has always done, whether he was raising hell on the front lines in Atlanta or giving Grover Cleveland a run for his money.
Tony: That's... that's... DAMN YOU AND YOUR LOGIC AND REASON! Or, well, I mean, you don't know at what point you're getting him. It could be post-election, or during the election cycle. He could, therefore, have some idea of the hubris that was about to doom him. Or had doomed him. Whew!
Oh, I'm sure Harrison will fight hard, but I keep coming back to the very thing you wrote-- "loses when he can't cheat"! By this very basic definition, he's going to be toast, as you can't cheat in a fight to the death. I suppose you can play dirty, but that's a bit different (and as I've said, Bush isn't going to be a pushover in that department). Add that to his penchant for pissing away advantages, and it's Round Two for G.H.W. Bush.
Doug: It's not like he CAN'T EVER win if he doesn't cheat. He cheated that one time, it just so happened to be on a national stage so more people knew about it.
And while you can't cheat in the Arena, you can cheat death. We've had our share of underdogs. We shouldn't write off Harrison just yet.
The Chief: Hey, here's a fun fact. Both guys served '89-'93. That's interesting, right?
Whatever, I don't need to be interesting. I'm the occasional moderator.
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Bush vs. Harrison
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